1 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:57,060 and that simple gesture that we see is what is there 2 00:00:57,060 --> 00:01:03,900 in every image of theirs precisely because not 3 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:10,220 it's them who kept it there are things which they were 4 00:01:10,220 --> 00:01:14,880 waited for decades in the cellar 5 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:21,550 this space space 6 00:01:21,550 --> 00:01:28,350 world and beyond that looms here is this presence of 7 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:33,670 space that is cinema rarely comes seen with such merciless precision 8 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:39,990 loving and ruthless that's what Rossellini 9 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:46,150 and not in a false mask of rigor 10 00:01:46,150 --> 00:01:52,830 rigor is the fact of being able to do against all trends, of some 11 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:57,690 way to succeed, then they had by now recognitions all over the world, are 12 00:01:57,690 --> 00:02:01,910 among artists rather than filmmakers, like this they are called. 13 00:02:02,830 --> 00:02:08,710 I find them to be much more intense and important of any artist 14 00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:09,770 contemporary. 15 00:02:10,789 --> 00:02:15,790 They tell us they don't exist there contemporaneity, there is everything in one block, 16 00:02:15,790 --> 00:02:17,170 in a space. 17 00:02:19,370 --> 00:02:26,290 and it must and will always loom over us as long as we have eyes and the 18 00:02:26,290 --> 00:02:31,870 voice to do so and as well as will continue to do 19 00:02:31,870 --> 00:02:36,950 Angela in this 20 00:02:36,950 --> 00:02:42,790 game is taken he survives us as I was saying 21 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:49,360 and this is why we recognize ourselves all 22 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,680 figurines that we see in their films, all the electrical fragments, again it is 23 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,160 a paradigmatic film. 24 00:03:40,330 --> 00:03:46,030 This is the country where you were born and of which you know nothing about. 25 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:49,730 While I was born in Verona, I know. 26 00:03:54,650 --> 00:04:01,190 See that shadow at the third ridge, next the most visible one e 27 00:04:01,190 --> 00:04:08,190 stony. There's one that looks smoky, almost inconsistent. Not yes 28 00:04:08,190 --> 00:04:09,190 do you even know if... 29 00:04:09,690 --> 00:04:14,870 And here, if we didn't know, we can distinguish from a darker cloud, 30 00:04:14,870 --> 00:04:19,070 long, or the shadow of the mountain. And there Arabat begins. 31 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:26,490 And where there is that white, one seems a spiral of smoke, like a 32 00:04:26,490 --> 00:04:32,730 giant cigarette smoked by God, who then it ends up in a blank. 33 00:04:33,770 --> 00:04:39,170 The last white part, after which there is the grey, and after which there is the 34 00:04:39,170 --> 00:04:46,130 still slope of this mountain, there, strangely, the part 35 00:04:46,130 --> 00:04:51,650 taller, pointed, sharp, similar to cusp, which this one talks about here 36 00:04:51,650 --> 00:04:58,290 historical poet, under which Argos is 37 00:04:58,290 --> 00:05:01,650 past, who says he loves. 38 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:06,470 that there is no journey in the world that can bring a place like this to 39 00:05:06,470 --> 00:05:12,570 to see a valley like this and to see Ararat as seen from here and how 40 00:05:12,570 --> 00:05:19,290 he lived and realized that it is lived to love that white top that 41 00:05:19,290 --> 00:05:26,210 for him it is the symbol of the purity of closest thing to man 42 00:05:26,210 --> 00:05:30,450 but also the furthest because man it can never be so pure and so 43 00:05:30,450 --> 00:05:33,390 as high as it is As the top of Arrat is. 44 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:18,440 I read from Angela Ricci Lucchi's diary 1975 45 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:25,820 Departure 46 00:06:25,820 --> 00:06:31,320 for London, Thursday 14 August, 9.15pm 47 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,500 On Saturday we left by train for Edinburgh 48 00:10:13,550 --> 00:10:17,490 Trip to USA, 1981, 49 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:25,110 10-14-81, shopping, taxi 50 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:30,910 Milan 10,000, tobacco 54 francs French. 51 00:10:45,070 --> 00:10:48,150 Met Maccas, Jonas Maccas. 52 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:55,630 Met Howard Gutenplan, al Millennium. 53 00:10:57,030 --> 00:11:03,750 10/17/81, decisive day. This evening there will be our work projected to the 54 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:04,870 Millennium at 8pm. 55 00:11:05,530 --> 00:11:10,250 Took a cab driven by an Armenian who was there led up to the Millennium. 56 00:11:12,010 --> 00:11:13,990 Screening, not many people. 57 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,080 A few questions later. 58 00:11:44,780 --> 00:11:46,620 Leave at Weinbren's house. 59 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:51,960 Friends, Larry Gottheim, Grenier with the his girl. 60 00:11:53,860 --> 00:11:56,160 Gutenplan, Madeleine and others. 61 00:11:57,660 --> 00:11:59,300 20.10.81. 62 00:11:59,580 --> 00:12:05,640 At seven we went to Vincent Grenier and Anna, met some filmmakers from San 63 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,860 Francisco. Graham and Erniger seen some their films. 64 00:12:12,140 --> 00:12:13,460 Returned late. 65 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:25,980 Bought the Village Voice, where the our name is in big letters in the 66 00:12:25,980 --> 00:12:27,360 show announcements. 67 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:46,700 27-10-81 Parties with... 68 00:12:46,910 --> 00:12:51,910 Greyhound at 10am to Binghampton. Larry was waiting for us upon arrival. 69 00:12:55,450 --> 00:13:00,230 We showed our films at Binghampton University. 70 00:13:04,510 --> 00:13:06,590 The erotic film was shown. 71 00:13:22,730 --> 00:13:26,950 A girl cried, then kissed us the hands. 72 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:33,550 Dinner at Debbie's in their beautiful house, in the countryside. 73 00:13:35,150 --> 00:13:38,550 Slept in the room above, among the trees. 74 00:13:40,250 --> 00:13:45,610 Left at 2.30pm, arrived in Utica at 5.30pm. 75 00:13:47,470 --> 00:13:51,570 Went to dinner at 6pm, with Scott and Pat. 76 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:01,480 29-10-81 Expected, with the usual agitation, 77 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,480 the screening in the new college, a Utica. 78 00:14:04,940 --> 00:14:10,700 The screening was accompanied by continuous laughter began at the writings in 79 00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:15,020 Italian of the catalogs and continued all the time. 80 00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:21,120 I was nervous with the perfume on me it came upon me and annoyed me. 81 00:15:32,180 --> 00:15:34,300 Back home with Pat and Scott. 82 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:39,380 Went to bed at midnight. A little uncertain. At least me. 83 00:15:39,780 --> 00:15:41,740 Influence. Depression. 84 00:15:42,660 --> 00:15:44,320 31-10-81. 85 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,560 Trip to California. 86 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Left Utica at 6.50 with a small plane. 87 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,520 Arrived in Los in the middle of the afternoon Angeles. 88 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,760 Dinner at home with dear friends. 89 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,600 November 1, 1981. 90 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,360 First day in Pasadena. 91 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:23,560 Get up early. Incredible light. In midsummer, like August. 92 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:27,880 Went to their friends, Terry's and Mary. 93 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,720 Then from a friend of theirs, Carol, about hair long and red. 94 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,620 Then saw a market and drank there Mexican pink drink, Peach Margarita. 95 00:16:45,020 --> 00:16:47,900 Dinner with friends at Terry and Mary's house. 96 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,560 2 November 81. 97 00:16:53,820 --> 00:16:57,380 Went to Pasadena, downtown, in bicycle. 98 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:02,680 Screening at 2pm at the college. 99 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:09,780 Third official screening, University of Los Angeles, by Chick Strand, one 100 00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:13,359 filmmaker, very impressed by ours work. 101 00:17:15,460 --> 00:17:17,540 Very good projection in the classroom. 102 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:26,140 In the evening William Scaf came with the his super eight, seen some films. 103 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,860 5 November 81. 104 00:17:31,540 --> 00:17:34,960 Biked to Pasadena for the Colorado Blvd. 105 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,100 In the evening, for dinner, we went at the home of Diana and Bob Wilson. 106 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,360 Ate vegetarian, in their beautiful house. 107 00:17:48,180 --> 00:17:51,140 They gave us a crocodile gift. 108 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,880 7 November 81. 109 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:08,840 Beautiful day at the beach in Laguna Beach with Sharon and her mother Virginia 110 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,340 Jones in a splendid house among the Bougainville. 111 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:23,000 At 5pm a copious Mexican food meal. 112 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,600 In the evening, fourth screening, at Long Beach bookstore, number 83. 113 00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:41,580 Bought books. 114 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,680 Fat birthday party projectionist. 115 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,740 8 November 81. 116 00:18:55,340 --> 00:19:00,180 At the attraction gallery, fifth projection, large, beautiful room. 117 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,680 but several failures with the projector terrible 118 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:10,680 November 9th 119 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:17,340 81 last day in Pasadena and sixth screening went to the finforum inside the 120 00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:24,280 I bank 121 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,960 and Y sitting on the stage crazy fires, bad, tension 122 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,140 Many friends. 123 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:29,300 After two round tables at the restaurant. 124 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,740 10 November 81. 125 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,440 Departure for San Francisco. 126 00:20:43,180 --> 00:20:47,400 Accompanied after a crazy ride in car with Ami Halpern. 127 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:53,220 He took us to his house where he lives with a sound arranger 128 00:20:53,220 --> 00:20:55,200 Hollywood actor who won an Oscar. 129 00:20:57,860 --> 00:20:59,380 Goodbye to Los Angeles. 130 00:20:59,660 --> 00:21:00,660 Hello Pasadena. 131 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,580 In San Francisco saw Carmen at the airport with bad hair and 132 00:21:07,580 --> 00:21:09,860 waistcoat and plastic bag. 133 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:14,960 At the terminal there was Jeffrey with Steffi, cute. 134 00:21:16,490 --> 00:21:18,690 They accompanied us to their house. 135 00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:27,330 How beautiful today, from the plane the great one bridge over the Bay. 136 00:21:27,730 --> 00:21:30,210 I remember the shadow of the plane in the ocean. 137 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:02,580 11 November 81. 138 00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:10,300 Breakfast with Jeffrey, then went to Janis Lipsy. 139 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,140 His very beautiful, delicate films, poetic. 140 00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:24,040 We went with Steffi and Jeffrey to Berkeley. 141 00:22:38,350 --> 00:22:42,270 nice big space very successful public 142 00:22:42,270 --> 00:22:49,190 eighth screening at the cinemathèque inside the 143 00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:53,350 fine arts school with lots of people extraordinary success 144 00:23:22,330 --> 00:23:23,910 We leave for El Paso. 145 00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:29,070 19 November 81. 146 00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:33,430 At the Tucson airport we picked up a car. 147 00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:38,910 I travel until 8.30, up to El Paso. 148 00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:45,710 Vili Varela came to pick us up, went to his house, met with his 149 00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:47,710 wife, Becky, Rebecca Maria. 150 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:52,540 Went to a very nice Texas place. 151 00:23:56,180 --> 00:23:57,800 20 November 81. 152 00:23:58,300 --> 00:23:59,300 El Paso. 153 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:05,420 Hot again. Let's go to the bank and to take a tour around this city a lot 154 00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:08,340 colored by a population Indian-Mexican. 155 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,780 Walk to the drugstore. 156 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,900 Seen the films of Willi and Breckage. 157 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:27,360 21 November 81 Up early, gone looking 158 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,680 of Jackalob in various drugstores. 159 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:38,680 Found postcards from an old woman of French origin. 160 00:24:53,070 --> 00:24:57,650 We screened in Il Paso for the ninth once, in a bookstore. 161 00:24:58,470 --> 00:25:00,130 About thirty people. 162 00:25:01,350 --> 00:25:05,210 Burnt child with poet father, among the public. 163 00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:10,850 Afterwards with friends at Adolf's, a small restaurant good, food. 164 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:15,870 My pain continues. 165 00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:21,170 I almost have a depressive crisis, caused by the illness and from fatigue. 166 00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:32,480 11-22-81, Paso Sunday, listening Music for Films by Brian 167 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:38,940 Eno, eating Sunday pancakes, ham and cheese omelette, 168 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,960 etc. 169 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:46,920 Went to Mexico, che viva, market colorful in Juarez, 170 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,600 fragrant, excited Christians. 171 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Mucho pueblo, photo. 172 00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:59,840 Film on foot, leaving the car in the Texas. 173 00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:05,320 Then went to buy sweets. 174 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,440 Sunday with football, roast dinner beef and hot potato. 175 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:13,880 Exchanges of writings, greetings. 176 00:26:15,460 --> 00:26:18,080 Recorded on a tape with different music. 177 00:26:19,060 --> 00:26:20,060 Handsome. 178 00:26:22,060 --> 00:26:23,720 23 November 81 179 00:26:24,460 --> 00:26:26,360 Departure at dawn, from El Paso. 180 00:26:28,380 --> 00:26:30,680 Greetings friends, great trip. 181 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,340 Arrived in Minneapolis, St. Paul. 182 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,260 Snow and cold. 183 00:26:52,590 --> 00:26:56,950 He's not in Bo Smith's house heating, in the white house and 184 00:26:56,950 --> 00:27:00,430 blue. Barbara is wife of Bo. 185 00:27:00,710 --> 00:27:02,430 Barbara is Bo's wife. 186 00:27:05,210 --> 00:27:06,610 Impact with the city. 187 00:27:07,230 --> 00:27:12,690 We meet Buster, Bo's son. Let's go to eat with him and Bill, at Work Art 188 00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:15,890 Center, exhibition and arts center. 189 00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:17,410 Interesting. 190 00:27:19,630 --> 00:27:21,870 Bill is interested in cinema. 191 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,560 Around the city. 192 00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:30,440 Hanging posters. 193 00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:49,620 Went to shops and bookstores. Experience nefarious of food in a McDonald's. 194 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,700 Home on the bus. 195 00:27:55,699 --> 00:27:58,540 Ate little fish and pudding cakes Bo. 196 00:27:58,820 --> 00:27:59,820 Some photos. 197 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,320 Mice in the house. 198 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,680 Got up and went with Bo to Film City Center, where we screen. 199 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Then ate at King's, paré itself old wood. 200 00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:23,440 Gone for groceries, boots and other food to another expense center, Apple Center. 201 00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:27,390 Everything giant, snow, cold. 202 00:28:28,650 --> 00:28:31,610 We have a Super 8 that we film with. 203 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:35,370 And the photos we take, buy in rollers. 204 00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:41,650 26 November 81, day of thanks. The first pilgrim fathers 205 00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:45,390 they thank God that they survived after a year. 206 00:28:46,150 --> 00:28:52,250 After an atrocious night, I thank you survive after two months. We have 540 207 00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:53,250 dollars. 208 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,620 46th day. 209 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,180 Let's go to City Center Film. 210 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Breakfast with Rick and Florian. 211 00:29:04,420 --> 00:29:07,120 At two o'clock at St. Mary's Hospital. 212 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,140 Little Buster accompanies us. 213 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,520 Very good. 214 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,880 Eleventh screening, very good. We know many interesting people. 215 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,480 28 November 81, terrible morning for me with pain. 216 00:29:59,860 --> 00:30:03,540 Twelfth projection good, known to the patron of filmmakers. 217 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Went to sleep in Minneapolis, at home of Mary's brother. 218 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,580 30 November 81, departure from Minneapolis, have a nice flight to Chicago. 219 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:20,920 We miss our flight for ten minutes Madison. 220 00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:25,420 The bus is called Arco and leaves at eleven. 221 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,680 I find a small place. 222 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,160 Corn fields, rich, agricultural land. 223 00:30:32,780 --> 00:30:35,380 In Madison there is Gege Murphy. 224 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,080 He takes us to university. 225 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,160 At dinner, to eat goose. I boiled fish. 226 00:30:42,830 --> 00:30:48,790 1st December 81, slept warm, good breakfast and to university for i 227 00:30:48,790 --> 00:30:52,030 money, for the poster and other jokes. 228 00:30:52,570 --> 00:30:55,170 In the evening, concert in Saint-Ré. 229 00:30:59,590 --> 00:31:06,310 2 December 81, the film was screened erotic in 16 mm. 230 00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:10,270 In the evening, thirteenth screening. 231 00:31:10,830 --> 00:31:15,530 Matthew arrives, Jerome arrives, the director of the museum and all the professors 232 00:31:15,530 --> 00:31:17,590 of cinema of this enormous university. 233 00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:22,330 Young population, success, Iervante happy, happy. 234 00:31:24,510 --> 00:31:28,390 We drink wine, we talk, I'm an American translates. 235 00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:31,730 They want to know the theories that are there below. 236 00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:37,030 3 December 81, departure for Toronto. 237 00:31:39,159 --> 00:31:42,540 14th screening in a place called Funnels. 238 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,840 Very Good Projection. 239 00:32:39,140 --> 00:32:43,420 We meet Michel, then John, we drink beer with him at the Dominion. 240 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,560 I speak in Italian. 241 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:50,760 A young lawyer tells me in Frenchman who felt oppression 242 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,760 of women. 243 00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:56,540 Wonderful awakening at night, the two of us and one cat, Napoleons. 244 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:00,120 5 December 81. 245 00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:03,040 We leave for New York at 11.45. 246 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,480 Via Chicago. 247 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:10,060 Slept at Chicago airport, arrival in New York on watch at 7 p.m. 248 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:16,420 Went to Marcella on 70th Avenue, welcomed with warmth and a delicious dinner. 249 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:29,300 Day 58 Went to Orchard Street a take the Nikes 250 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:32,040 for me and the paliacotto for Buster. 251 00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:36,270 shipped immediately for Minneapolis-St. Paul. 252 00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:45,910 Went to MoMA, they would be there by 1982? 253 00:33:47,510 --> 00:33:54,250 They saw the two Karagoets and the shady one, Adrien Mancha and Robert 254 00:33:54,250 --> 00:33:55,250 Breer. 255 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,800 10 December 81, departure at dawn for Pittsburgh, via Chicago, colors 256 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,800 beautiful. 257 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,020 Arrived in Pittsburgh at 45 months. 258 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,540 Bruce and Margaret arrived by car, snow, wind, cold. 259 00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:29,060 11 December 81, museum with Victor, where we see interesting films. 260 00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:32,699 Bruce Bailey, Kenneth Anger, Hollis Frampton. 261 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:40,900 it's beautiful with the neo-gothic snow you're from victor 262 00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:47,840 and molly very nice fifteenth not many people but good screening 263 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,840 projection 264 00:35:08,970 --> 00:35:10,730 12 December 81. 265 00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:15,090 Departure at dawn. Marilyn takes us at the airport. 266 00:35:16,350 --> 00:35:18,530 Noticeable delay at departure. 267 00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:23,010 Our long trip begins Europe. For two days we will take 268 00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:27,030 planes. From 8.40am in Pittsburgh to Milan. 269 00:35:34,930 --> 00:35:37,050 December 13, 2000. 270 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,880 from the diary of Angela Ricci Lucchi. 271 00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:44,200 We leave from Malpensa on a Boeing for New York. 272 00:35:44,860 --> 00:35:51,380 We are moving towards the fifth and final retrospective of 2000, the high point 273 00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:52,380 for us. 274 00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:56,760 Alone, without mafias of critics or others pushes. 275 00:35:57,580 --> 00:35:58,580 Resistant. 276 00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:05,820 Retrospectives in Nyon, at Villa Docondo, a Milan Cineteca, in Paris Cinematec e 277 00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:07,000 now in New York. 278 00:36:12,830 --> 00:36:14,230 December 14th. 279 00:36:14,530 --> 00:36:19,890 At the hotel we are waiting for Raymond Bellour, who it's close. Big parties. 280 00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:25,410 Let's go to 5th Avenue and Madison Avenue, in a gallery. 281 00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:31,030 On the tenth floor we see an exhibition of watercolors and etchings by Henri 282 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:33,430 Michaud. Delicate surrealism. 283 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:39,730 6 am. 284 00:36:40,530 --> 00:36:46,570 Presentation of Raymond at the Cinema del MoMA. Large room, close to the 285 00:36:46,570 --> 00:36:47,570 coffee shop. 286 00:36:50,410 --> 00:36:55,490 Beautiful projection, in a technical sense, of Balkan inventory. 287 00:36:55,850 --> 00:36:59,050 There is a meeting with the public afterwards. 288 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:04,490 With Yervant... 289 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:11,360 Bill introduces us and explains my lack English. Many questions, some 290 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,000 he ventures. Is it a fairy tale? Yervant says. 291 00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:16,420 It's war. 292 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,940 Throughout the screening I had emotional anguish. 293 00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:42,230 The elegant, cost-effective restaurant prohibitive, they will tell me in Italy. 294 00:37:44,490 --> 00:37:50,170 Let's meet Mary Lee Bundy, Larry Kardish and Mary Lee's husband, Gary, 295 00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:56,910 very nice. My boss, says Bill, she seems very happy, 296 00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:58,890 offers us an excellent dinner. 297 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:03,530 I'm among her who speaks Italian and French and remonde. 298 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,320 You talk about literature. He is surprised because I know the American writer 299 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,860 Villa Cater and I prefer it to Hemingway. 300 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:16,560 December 15th. 301 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,540 At 10am in a taxi with Bill. 302 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,260 We cross Central Park. 303 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,080 In the room Scott makes a presentation different from Raymond. 304 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:38,080 Gwen says, that's two introductions very different. Scott struggles with the 305 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,800 microphone not working. 306 00:38:40,060 --> 00:38:44,080 It addresses the public in a way nonconformist. 307 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:51,680 It follows our path a bit. I'm not scented films have been forgotten. 308 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:55,140 It goes up to the shade. 309 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,740 From the pole to the equator. 310 00:38:59,290 --> 00:39:06,170 gradually and presents on all the peaks and peace there are more people 311 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,920 It's December 16th. 312 00:39:56,340 --> 00:40:02,880 At 6.30 our honor leaves Bill's house and a very rare thing 313 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,140 Mary Lee arrives. 314 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:11,400 He talks about helping us a lot, he wants to save our films and acquire them 315 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,160 last, make 35 mm for theirs archive. 316 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:22,840 Bill is happy because they liked us us and our work at My Boss. 317 00:40:27,370 --> 00:40:29,170 September 11, 2001. 318 00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:36,230 A film is playing on television horrible, scary, true. 319 00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:43,330 Two planes, passengers, kamikazes, have crossed the Twin Towers in New 320 00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:49,530 York, near Wall Street, where we have lived and where with Bill and Gwen in the 321 00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:54,190 December 2000 we went to the restaurant on the 106th floor. 322 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,480 We will have some pictures of the bridge Brooklyn and the Statue of Liberty. 323 00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:01,660 How horrible! 324 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,340 The huge and very fast elevators, the huge lobby, a sea of people. 325 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:16,520 I then thought how many poor people of the third world pay for this enormous waste. 326 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,060 January 2009. 327 00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:27,080 Milan, New York. 328 00:41:27,620 --> 00:41:29,860 Courage or recklessness? 329 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,680 Yervant terrified, worried. 330 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,960 New suitcase. Old crutch. Borsalino. 331 00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:42,480 From Malpensa with American Airlines. 332 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,240 We are at the Warwick hotel. 333 00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:56,790 We have already been in 2001, vis-à-vis the MoMA. 334 00:41:57,510 --> 00:42:02,250 Room 2905, on the 29th floor. 335 00:42:05,470 --> 00:42:10,430 We read in New Yorker magazine literary spread everywhere. 336 00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:15,970 There is a reminder of ours retrospective, also in the New York Times. 337 00:42:17,730 --> 00:42:22,050 Bill says no one has ever had so much advertising. 338 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:35,340 I said there are firefighters in the road. 339 00:42:59,660 --> 00:43:01,080 It's very sweet! 340 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,660 Is it something? 341 00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:11,700 It is 342 00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:13,500 a composition. 343 00:43:13,820 --> 00:43:15,940 It's green tea, ice cream. 344 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,680 Our retrospective begins on Monday 2nd. 345 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,580 In the morning we see some exhibitions at Metropolitan. 346 00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:29,540 Let's go to MoMA, theater 2. 347 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,260 There are a lot of people, we are surprised. I and Gwen we touch shoulders. 348 00:46:21,260 --> 00:46:27,400 Bob Lamley, historian, is in the room. It is came from London. He'll be here for two 349 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,740 weeks. He wants to write a book about it us. 350 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:56,860 In this one there is the first 351 00:46:56,860 --> 00:47:01,780 page, the Easter migrations, i pilgrimages like this, and there is the description 352 00:47:01,780 --> 00:47:06,960 of Easter, the meaning of the lamb, the various 353 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:13,880 meanings, these clothes they gave at the end of 354 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,120 ceremonies with the writings on them, those Armenian sandwiches, we're still getting there 355 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,360 maybe somewhere. 356 00:47:21,390 --> 00:47:27,870 And while I was reading these rituals, from lavender, with feet like this, 357 00:47:28,010 --> 00:47:32,030 I thought nothing matches what we saw in Jerusalem, 358 00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:33,570 the violence of those rituals. 359 00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:40,290 Ultimately, that's where all this comes from such a violent ritual. 360 00:47:43,490 --> 00:47:46,690 There they make poetry, the terraniello. 361 00:47:46,930 --> 00:47:48,350 Do they write poetry here? Yes. 362 00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:53,860 of literature they do. Instead we have saw those rituals there what the hell, 363 00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:59,380 killing. But we have to see when this competition arises between 364 00:47:59,380 --> 00:48:02,600 the Christians. 365 00:48:02,940 --> 00:48:08,060 It is ancient, because for example for the crusades at some point, I don't know if it is 366 00:48:08,060 --> 00:48:14,560 Saladin, who gives this space to Orthodox, then the Greeks, 367 00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:22,350 So at that time he is attacked by a group, because he had favored these 368 00:48:22,350 --> 00:48:24,730 Greeks, because the patriarch was a Greek. 369 00:48:28,110 --> 00:48:34,930 And then the king had ancestry Greeks and they attack this thing that 370 00:48:34,930 --> 00:48:37,970 had given the Greeks this great space. 371 00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:45,080 the other Christians who have been and says that the only state that 372 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,140 i 373 00:48:49,140 --> 00:48:56,020 Muslims respected, that is 374 00:48:56,020 --> 00:49:02,500 at the time of Saladin, the only state Christian they respected were the 375 00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:03,500 Georgians. 376 00:49:05,170 --> 00:49:10,830 because they were very far away, they said did their own thing and had great respect 377 00:49:10,830 --> 00:49:11,830 of the Georgians. 378 00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:19,510 But we were told that the Georgians they had lost all their power underneath 379 00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:21,710 the tomb jump, and once upon a time her too. 380 00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:26,370 It's because you can see that at the time it was a sardine they had a lot of weight. Probably not 381 00:49:26,370 --> 00:49:30,410 they had no longer been able to pay, but pay because you had to pay. 382 00:49:31,690 --> 00:49:35,570 Taxes. But at that time it was there the only Christian state he respected 383 00:49:35,570 --> 00:49:36,570 no one else. 384 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:38,750 Yes, but here we are at the end of the 1100s. 385 00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:45,790 Yes, 1190. But much later, or not much further on, with i 386 00:49:45,790 --> 00:49:52,570 Mamluks, I believe, the Georgians are were accused of being spies 387 00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:53,570 of the Mongols. 388 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,500 and therefore they have been forgotten and the their churches have been removed and are 389 00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:03,580 become mosques but Ran Sinan to a at a certain point it stops on the burnt and 390 00:50:03,580 --> 00:50:08,460 begins Genghis Khan intervenes the reign of Genghis Khan is very 391 00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:15,340 interesting yes obviously every page each page is ten books l 392 00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:21,020 'original I think it would be good to put to comparison for example put a 393 00:50:21,020 --> 00:50:27,610 I compare that year and I take Misho and let's try reading Misho. But I put a 394 00:50:27,610 --> 00:50:34,410 little compared to what I've read about Ghosh, a little. Which he doesn't touch 395 00:50:34,410 --> 00:50:37,690 so much, however, he says, the crusaders in that year there, those are those years there, 396 00:50:37,690 --> 00:50:41,010 they ruined relationships and trade. 397 00:50:42,190 --> 00:50:46,490 Trade between the Mediterranean and India, because they all passed there 398 00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:47,490 below. 399 00:50:47,830 --> 00:50:49,970 From Egypt they went there to the Gulf. 400 00:50:55,240 --> 00:51:01,560 It's a great culture, a great culture which, I confess, I 401 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:07,660 missing in one way... Enrico di Ciampan is the very handsome one, who had 402 00:51:07,660 --> 00:51:12,300 married after less than a week of widowhood the widow of Corrado of 403 00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:13,760 Monferrato, Isabella. 404 00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:15,160 A week later. 405 00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:19,480 Yes, not even a week of widowhood she had married him. 406 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,640 First he didn't want it, then when he got it saw it was so beautiful. 407 00:51:23,050 --> 00:51:27,150 And he was much loved by his people, because he had freed himself from a statesman 408 00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:32,150 good, because he trusted good people advisors, he was a prudent man, 409 00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:33,410 etc., etc. 410 00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:39,510 And he has an incredible death, because suddenly the Germans gather, 411 00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:44,410 I decided with the emperor for reconquer Jerusalem. 412 00:51:44,910 --> 00:51:49,870 At this point the Muslims, the heirs of Saladin, they organize themselves to attack the 413 00:51:49,870 --> 00:51:55,520 Germans. And there he, poor guy, was the king of... she was queen of Josalemia, 414 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,240 but he had never yet been born king. 415 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:03,300 He was desperate, he doesn't have an army so strong, he had always had gods 416 00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:06,520 relations with Saladin, a lot with Calti, like this. 417 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,320 So he asks the Pisans for help, who they had their bases there. 418 00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:15,020 The Pisan delegation arrives... 419 00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:21,420 He is in an open loggia high up in the castle and receives them and reviews them 420 00:52:21,420 --> 00:52:22,960 these Pisan troops. 421 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,880 At one point he makes a misstep, that is he no longer remembered where he was and falls into the 422 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,780 sorry because the loggia was open. 423 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:37,980 His dwarf, the court dwarf, tries to protect him, to grab him, but the dwarf 424 00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:40,220 he was light weight, he was a big man. 425 00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:45,190 they fall and shatter and kill each other together, both of them. It's a story 426 00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:47,350 incredible, this dwarf who appears. 427 00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:54,110 The queen, desperate, falls into a belch, because it is one of the few happy marriages. 428 00:52:55,450 --> 00:53:00,330 And yet they want her to marry absolutely another, because this 429 00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:03,130 army was left without a leader and without king. 430 00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:07,330 Then everyone went there to be able to do and says... 431 00:53:07,870 --> 00:53:14,610 And all the nobles were busy who he had to marry, without thinking that 432 00:53:14,610 --> 00:53:16,610 maybe she had to decide who too marry. 433 00:53:21,590 --> 00:53:25,650 So the court dwarves, famous, right? 434 00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:30,650 It was 1197. 435 00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:35,290 And what was Corrado like? 436 00:53:37,310 --> 00:53:44,190 a shabby old man from Piedmont who is her had married, but of the same 437 00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:51,170 Don Emozzo had been killed because of her he had made a 438 00:53:51,170 --> 00:53:55,050 bathroom, it dragged on, it dragged on... Because she didn't want to marry him. 439 00:53:55,290 --> 00:54:02,190 Well, whatever, but she had managed to conceive a daughter with her, that the 440 00:54:02,190 --> 00:54:03,490 they called the Marchise. 441 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,440 she was five years old, they called her la Marchesa because she was the daughter of a 442 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,500 Marquis of Monferrato. 443 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,160 Which however was not Corrado. 444 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:17,680 Which was Corrado, but he had been killed from the murderers, the famous one 445 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,900 sect of assassins. What he talks about Freya Stark. 446 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,480 Freya Stark talks about. 447 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,980 When he tells him the valley of the murderers, because it was the valley of that 448 00:54:27,980 --> 00:54:30,440 sect, which was the Gakkan. 449 00:54:31,660 --> 00:54:32,940 The Ismailis. 450 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,160 The Ismailis. 451 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,460 And I think it was Corrado who had a good relationship with them, I think. 452 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:48,380 That he had come, yes, they had invited him in their fortress, they had done to him 453 00:54:48,380 --> 00:54:52,200 a great lunch and they had shown him that by order of their lord yes 454 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,660 they could murder each other. 455 00:54:54,220 --> 00:54:59,940 And this man, who was a gentle man, he had said, no, but it doesn't matter, there you are 456 00:54:59,940 --> 00:55:00,940 demonstrate. 457 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,280 He had gone back to the house. 458 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,180 Who predicted them for you. 459 00:55:08,780 --> 00:55:11,080 Come on Grillo, turn it off. 460 00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:15,460 Jerusalem. 461 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,480 April 3, 2007. 462 00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:20,340 Milan-Vienna-Teraville. 463 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:23,400 The plane leaves at 7.50. 464 00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:32,440 We only found out now, upon departure of our manufacturer. 465 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:33,920 shocking. 466 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,300 Yervant films and always gets lost. 467 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:11,900 April 4, 2007 in the morning visit to neighborhood 468 00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:12,360 Armenian 469 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:28,740 to 470 00:56:28,740 --> 00:56:34,790 Armenian mass everything is biblical The rituals, the colors, we are in the ancient. 471 00:57:22,220 --> 00:57:27,940 and the prior washes the feet. It looks like the dream of Constantine, by Piero della 472 00:57:27,940 --> 00:57:28,940 Francesca. 473 00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:55,710 Very organised, even hygienically, many sponges. 474 00:58:06,730 --> 00:58:08,590 Then he does an anointing. 475 00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:52,470 Yes, yes, yes. 476 00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:19,210 Thank you very much, thank you 477 00:59:19,210 --> 00:59:25,810 thousand. 478 01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:47,110 Good Friday, the day of the cross. 479 01:01:13,550 --> 01:01:14,930 A gift to the chain. 480 01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:55,720 ... ... ... ... ... 481 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,000 Thank you. 482 01:02:59,690 --> 01:03:05,810 Went to the Via Dolorosa where furious they carry crosses. 483 01:03:11,950 --> 01:03:16,550 and where there is a jumble in the sense of dirty water. 484 01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:30,530 Yves Siron lifts me, worried that you fall into it with your sandals. 485 01:04:07,660 --> 01:04:09,800 pieces of the wall are kissed 486 01:05:02,270 --> 01:05:04,850 I spoke in Italian on the cell phone. 487 01:05:19,629 --> 01:05:24,150 Heat, fatigue, fanaticism, stairs, steps. 488 01:05:26,350 --> 01:05:30,610 Pietro bumpy, crossroads like lakes of water. 489 01:05:52,380 --> 01:05:58,040 Smells of all kinds, stench, food, sweat, souvenirs. 490 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:07,000 Other than non-places, all kinds of faithful and religious pass by. 491 01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:11,880 Different languages, songs. 492 01:06:17,740 --> 01:06:18,740 Single women. 493 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,020 Family groups. 494 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,080 Brotherhoods. They also pass by arrogantly. 495 01:06:53,620 --> 01:06:59,420 They pass with large and small crosses. You you have to move quickly. They crush you 496 01:06:59,420 --> 01:07:00,420 against the wall. 497 01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:13,060 In the thrusts, possessed hordes, the fanaticism is unleashed, horrendous, a real 498 01:07:13,060 --> 01:07:16,260 via crucis, we stop at the various ones stations. 499 01:07:53,130 --> 01:07:56,450 The children of the procession must be protected. 500 01:08:05,330 --> 01:08:09,530 But above all there is violence in the faces. 501 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,340 Are they Americans, maybe they're Japanese? No, no, I know them. 502 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,540 The leader is American. 503 01:10:29,740 --> 01:10:34,780 lots of toy soldiers and armed Israel seriously. 504 01:10:35,260 --> 01:10:36,460 Christ. 505 01:11:39,950 --> 01:11:46,730 April 7, 2007 Holy Saturday quick quick by taxi to the 506 01:11:46,730 --> 01:11:47,730 patriarchy 507 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,480 Many roads blocked, many policemen and many soldiers. 508 01:11:53,900 --> 01:11:58,960 They block us at Jaffa Gate, they come to unlock us from the convent. 509 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:10,800 Two Armenian bands of children parade, kids, teenagers and adults. The 510 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:16,440 first is from the Democratic Party, Khaki and Rossi, and they play bagpipes. 511 01:12:16,940 --> 01:12:23,760 Scotland style. The second very in blue, college style, is that of 512 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,460 Tashnak, the right, and they play American style. 513 01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:44,280 I enter the church. 514 01:12:44,510 --> 01:12:46,350 I hardly have my feet on the ground. 515 01:12:53,150 --> 01:12:56,890 Ceremonial crowds at the saint's church tomb. 516 01:13:15,140 --> 01:13:20,880 struggle between Christian minorities who they compete for even small spaces 517 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:26,740 Sacred places must be paid for by whoever pays the most the more power it has, the more space 518 01:13:31,550 --> 01:13:35,030 I'm small, I can't see. 519 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:18,340 Lighted candles, avalanches of incense, patriarchs, shouting crowds, flags, 520 01:14:18,580 --> 01:14:19,620 nationalists. 521 01:14:33,130 --> 01:14:39,650 Others scream, sing. We are in an arena of lot? At the stadium? Is it faith? 522 01:14:59,500 --> 01:15:05,700 indescribable, standing, in a space cordoned off, limited first by the priests 523 01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:07,940 Armenians, then by the Jewish soldiers. 524 01:15:15,740 --> 01:15:22,580 A boy comes out 525 01:15:22,580 --> 01:15:28,460 bleeding on the head, unheard of violence for a place called sacred. 526 01:15:28,940 --> 01:15:29,960 The police who don't let who pass? 527 01:15:30,620 --> 01:15:33,180 The police who don't let who pass? 528 01:15:33,620 --> 01:15:34,620 The Armenians? 529 01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:48,040 An Armenian priest runs up high with the candles that we also light 530 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:54,160 I argue with young photographers who you they trample they push they become then 531 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:59,370 Kind, I'm pissed off too my leg turned black 532 01:15:59,370 --> 01:16:02,530 when 533 01:16:02,530 --> 01:16:09,830 they dissolve 534 01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:15,470 the bells great roars and fire comes out from holy sepulchre 535 01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:26,520 I distinctly reject this ageographic faith even fanaticism. Oh San 536 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:27,520 Francis. 537 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,400 The 538 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:44,780 ours 539 01:18:44,780 --> 01:18:46,080 harder journey. 540 01:18:47,050 --> 01:18:50,570 It is not possible to represent the emotions. 541 01:18:51,530 --> 01:18:56,850 I have what was seen, heard, listened. 542 01:19:00,630 --> 01:19:07,150 Like the three swans. I don't see, I don't hear, I don't speak. 543 01:20:01,829 --> 01:20:06,550 A terrible summer Sunday in June, my family bikes on the 544 01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:10,610 canal that runs near the mill of the Figni, just outside Lugo. 545 01:20:11,110 --> 01:20:16,190 There are the farmers, other friends, with telescopes, cameras, 546 01:20:16,270 --> 01:20:18,950 everyone scans the sky, they are worry. 547 01:20:19,250 --> 01:20:22,190 We stop in a field, there is the canal side. 548 01:20:22,650 --> 01:20:26,950 My mother had prepared lunch Sunday at home, takes the bicycle, 549 01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:31,790 he goes to get it. Our home is almost two kilometers away. Ours 550 01:20:31,790 --> 01:20:34,110 courage and our recklessness. 551 01:20:34,450 --> 01:20:37,470 We don't have the full perception of the war. 552 01:20:38,010 --> 01:20:41,550 I think about my mother, I'm anxious, because I don't see her coming back. 553 01:20:41,950 --> 01:20:46,150 Suddenly she's on the bike with the bag of food, takes a long tour, not 554 01:20:46,150 --> 01:20:49,370 passes through the road that runs alongside the channel, it's too risky. 555 01:20:49,630 --> 01:20:52,230 I escape PEA surveillance. 556 01:20:52,540 --> 01:20:57,760 and I run towards her I hear a roar sudden and very close and above me 557 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:02,440 a big black bird is his shadow in the yellow field of stubble I see 558 01:21:02,440 --> 01:21:07,360 splashes of spray rise into the air straw machine gun shots mi 559 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:12,440 they chase I hear the screams of my parents family members also call me my mother is 560 01:21:12,440 --> 01:21:17,400 terrified, she looks for me, we're at the beginning of a great nightmare 561 01:21:25,770 --> 01:21:29,150 Gothic line. December 2017. 562 01:21:29,950 --> 01:21:31,650 Angela Ricci Lucchi. 563 01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:37,770 Summer. Fall. Winter. Christmas 1944. 564 01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:40,430 Spring 1945. 565 01:21:42,530 --> 01:21:49,410 The bombs now terrified us. They rained from the blue sky 566 01:21:49,410 --> 01:21:53,950 summer. They were announced by rhombuses far away. 567 01:21:54,350 --> 01:22:00,310 ever closer, ever closer. Yes they fell on houses, on streets, 568 01:22:00,350 --> 01:22:02,290 on the fields, on the ditches. 569 01:22:03,330 --> 01:22:09,050 My sister Anna screamed, took hers bike and fled towards the fields. 570 01:22:09,290 --> 01:22:14,410 My mother was desperate, she didn't know what what to do to protect ourselves. 571 01:22:14,710 --> 01:22:20,330 He chased Anna with his bicycle, he wanted to bring her back home where we were, me 572 01:22:20,330 --> 01:22:22,510 and my little sister. 573 01:22:23,370 --> 01:22:29,330 Yes, my mother was alone in those moments. We didn't understand where my father was 574 01:22:29,330 --> 01:22:35,910 left. It wasn't there. This was the only one certainty. Years later I learned that in 575 01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:41,630 that period was sought by the fascists. They were ill-intentioned towards him 576 01:22:41,630 --> 01:22:43,170 because he wasn't one of them. 577 01:22:43,930 --> 01:22:49,490 Someone had helped him escape. It was went far away to hide. 578 01:22:50,170 --> 01:22:52,870 Two things struck me in those days moments. 579 01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:56,720 The sudden disappearance of my father and the fact that we no longer went to 580 01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:01,820 nursery school. How strange to see that my father's study closed and at the same time 581 01:23:01,820 --> 01:23:02,820 the school closed. 582 01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:09,540 Grandfather was the only man left with us. His sons had been drafted 583 01:23:09,540 --> 01:23:13,380 from very young people. My uncle Giorgio he was still studying in high school when he 584 01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:14,940 they called into the army. 585 01:23:15,260 --> 01:23:20,880 One morning the grandfather restarts the his old 18BL, one of the trucks 586 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,220 of the First World War. 587 01:23:22,730 --> 01:23:26,230 Turn the crank, because that's how its start-up takes place. 588 01:23:26,710 --> 01:23:31,330 Load benches and old armchairs wicker where grandmother gets on, the 589 01:23:31,330 --> 01:23:34,190 widowed sister, we three little ones and my mother. 590 01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:36,110 Off we go. 591 01:23:36,350 --> 01:23:42,470 The atmosphere was not holiday-like. The old osmatic 18 BL forwards for 592 01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:45,910 secondary country roads, the white roads. 593 01:23:46,330 --> 01:23:49,850 We arrive at a country house where 's younger sister awaits us 594 01:23:49,850 --> 01:23:51,830 mother with her recently born baby. 595 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,920 She also has an official husband called back to arms. One awaits us 596 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:56,920 surprise. 597 01:23:57,580 --> 01:24:00,840 I still see my younger brother mother. 598 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,800 Giorgio lying on the bed, with his feet up bloody. 599 01:24:05,260 --> 01:24:08,740 He had escaped from a youth barracks soldiers. 600 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:13,780 He soon realized that the young women recruits were let out of one 601 01:24:13,780 --> 01:24:15,980 dormitory at night, but they did not return more. 602 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:20,180 The Germans eliminated the military Italians, the recruits. 603 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,860 Giorgio, barefoot, so as not to wake up suspects, he had gone to the bathroom at night 604 01:24:24,860 --> 01:24:29,700 and had escaped through the window. It was June. The farmers had mowed the 605 01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:35,160 wheat. The stubble tore the skin. A about 70 kilometers was the home of 606 01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,460 countryside where she had taken refuge sister. He certainly couldn't show up at 607 01:24:39,460 --> 01:24:45,140 house. Giorgio was also brought up on the 18BL truck, disguising it as 608 01:24:45,140 --> 01:24:47,960 woman, with her aunt and her pram her newborn baby. 609 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:53,120 Grandfather had planned to put in save all his family, streets 610 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,860 full of potholes, ditches to cross. 611 01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:01,560 We arrived at a bare house countryside, where we were all hosted in 612 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,620 two, three rooms from the remaining peasants, mother and daughter. The men of the house 613 01:25:06,620 --> 01:25:11,140 they appeared and disappeared, continually alerted and remained hidden. 614 01:25:11,740 --> 01:25:14,720 We immediately carried out the occupation German. 615 01:25:15,130 --> 01:25:20,890 Big, beautiful horses advanced with elegant officers. The heart was beating 616 01:25:20,890 --> 01:25:22,510 strong. I was little. 617 01:25:22,770 --> 01:25:26,470 However I remember a sense of fear, of constant dismay. 618 01:25:26,930 --> 01:25:31,270 My sisters and I remained the eldest part of the time at home, even if it was 619 01:25:31,270 --> 01:25:32,510 summer and the sun was high. 620 01:25:33,070 --> 01:25:37,870 Two figures stood out like cut out, one of the Russian prisoner, 621 01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:43,650 very dark, with moustaches, always tight-chested naked, with shiny leather trousers 622 01:25:43,650 --> 01:25:50,250 black. probably a Caucasian. Not he spoke, he was a tank driver. To a certain extent 623 01:25:50,250 --> 01:25:51,370 point disappeared. 624 01:25:52,370 --> 01:25:56,230 The other figure is of a large man and big, smiling. 625 01:25:56,610 --> 01:26:01,590 They had put him to work as a cook. Always near boiling pots, it was a 626 01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:02,610 Polish prisoner. 627 01:26:02,890 --> 01:26:08,130 He raised a large one with his fork potato, he showed it by saying Deutschland, 628 01:26:08,670 --> 01:26:10,270 Deutschland, uber alles. 629 01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:13,130 The third German? 630 01:26:13,450 --> 01:26:18,390 A permanent presence around the house yes called Emilio. He was in charge of 631 01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:23,510 bring the food to the very nearby front. He loaded the soup pots onto a 632 01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:28,370 large wooden chariot like that of the peasants from Silesia and left with his 633 01:26:28,370 --> 01:26:33,610 horse. He was a forced farmer to wage a war he hated. 634 01:26:34,350 --> 01:26:40,070 He took the photo out of his jacket of his three little girls. He was pointing at the three of us 635 01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:41,910 sisters. He sighed. 636 01:26:42,330 --> 01:26:43,890 He longed to return home. 637 01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:49,010 When some Germans arrived drunk, he pushed him away. 638 01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:53,690 Emilio disappeared one day, he didn't return with his horse. 639 01:26:54,170 --> 01:26:57,050 Suddenly my father reappeared. 640 01:26:57,370 --> 01:27:02,590 He had succeeded at great risk and difficulty reaching us. He wanted to stay 641 01:27:02,590 --> 01:27:03,590 with us. 642 01:27:09,330 --> 01:27:11,830 There were many anxieties. 643 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:17,160 The aerial bombings and raids of the Germans. And terror of terrors. 644 01:27:17,180 --> 01:27:21,580 When a German was killed, the law of one by ten came into play. 645 01:27:21,700 --> 01:27:26,700 The men fled into the fields. I hard and furious Germans entered with 646 01:27:26,700 --> 01:27:28,500 bullying at home to control. 647 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,880 The atmosphere was heavy. 648 01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:35,960 We girls always had to keep quiet. The home was no longer safe. 649 01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:42,080 We were inside the very first line, shots at all hours. Everyone was asleep 650 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:46,600 in the stable with the mice. Era considered the most protected place. 651 01:27:46,820 --> 01:27:51,220 With the light off, because there was only one shy carbide light. 652 01:27:51,820 --> 01:27:58,720 Instead there was the burela, a small one black and white cow that had milk. 653 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:04,540 It was vital for us, for the cheese, the butter. It wasn't a great production, but 654 01:28:04,540 --> 01:28:06,020 allowed survival. 655 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:11,040 She was docile and meek, she just had a great passion to chew at night 656 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:16,860 the blanket that covered Giorgio, which he slept in the manger next to her. 657 01:28:17,740 --> 01:28:22,440 The dei debacle began in the autumn Germans, the great retreat. 658 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:28,440 A stormy night, with rain flagellating, we felt that the 659 01:28:28,440 --> 01:28:31,360 troops retreating towards the north. 660 01:28:31,700 --> 01:28:35,160 Suddenly, strong and repeated blows. 661 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:40,880 A appears at the stable door armed soldier. Aim against us 662 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:41,880 his war rifle. 663 01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,660 He unties Burela and wants to take her away. 664 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,980 She balks. 665 01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:51,800 Leave his protective stable and face the unknown in the storm. 666 01:28:52,700 --> 01:28:58,800 To everyone's great surprise and happiness, a few days later, Burela appeared on the 667 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,580 door of his stable. 668 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,200 Big hugs and kisses. How she had done it to free himself? 669 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,620 Our Burela is brave. 670 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:12,620 On an early winter morning, on country almost destroyed by bombs 671 01:29:12,620 --> 01:29:18,140 airplanes and shelling, we hear a sweet dirge, music and instruments a 672 01:29:18,140 --> 01:29:19,640 us absolutely unknown. 673 01:29:20,020 --> 01:29:25,060 The bagpipes arrive ahead of everything played by the Scots of Canada. 674 01:29:25,340 --> 01:29:31,200 An extravagant vision in a ravine landscape. The soldiers had skirts 675 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:32,200 squared. 676 01:29:32,810 --> 01:29:35,050 To us it seemed like the end of the war. 677 01:29:35,310 --> 01:29:38,030 No, it had started for us. 678 01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:44,290 The Canadians, the New Zealanders, who were behind the bagpipes, they chased us away 679 01:29:44,290 --> 01:29:47,770 screaming in the house, of which they had requirement most. 680 01:29:48,230 --> 01:29:53,310 The German snipers were relentless, they herded us into the kitchen. 681 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,540 Vision I will never forget. 682 01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,960 More evacuees arrived from a house neighbor destroyed. They were thrown 683 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,380 mattresses on the floor. We three sisters we were under the table. 684 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:09,460 The only light was that of the little girl cheap kitchen where the old auntie 685 01:30:09,460 --> 01:30:11,440 he cooked continuously in the dark. 686 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,960 Piled together, dirty, at the only window they took turns with the grate 687 01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,200 allies. That's what they called themselves. 688 01:30:20,540 --> 01:30:25,680 With weapons, ready to shoot snipers Germans who were responding a few meters away 689 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:26,619 to the fire. 690 01:30:26,620 --> 01:30:32,100 We stayed there for ages front line, in the famous Gothic line. 691 01:30:33,380 --> 01:30:37,180 The problem was to supply water to the well in front of the house. 692 01:30:37,420 --> 01:30:40,080 Soldiers were often mowed down. 693 01:30:40,500 --> 01:30:44,040 Life was very hard, few possibilities of movement. 694 01:30:45,820 --> 01:30:49,460 On, the summer clothes with which we had escaped. 695 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:54,520 And I still live the memory of my mother desperate and of my sister Anna who 696 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:58,400 he often shouted. And Sesa and I plugged them the mouth. 697 01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:04,520 The New Zealand officer, especially during the long nights, he took the 698 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:09,780 round headphones in our ears and we could hear preview Glenn Miller, the swing. 699 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,800 What strange, yet fun music. 700 01:31:13,460 --> 01:31:16,880 Tum, tum, tum, tum, the heroic of Beethoven. 701 01:31:17,550 --> 01:31:19,830 Radio London was echoing in the kitchen. 702 01:31:20,410 --> 01:31:24,850 Doors barred, windows closed, covered of dark cloths. 703 01:31:25,370 --> 01:31:30,630 We, adults and children in silence, ad grasp the meaning of certain 704 01:31:30,630 --> 01:31:31,630 bizarre phrases. 705 01:31:32,010 --> 01:31:36,350 The sun is shining, the frogs are croaking, it rains on the hills. 706 01:31:37,310 --> 01:31:40,650 The officer continuously radioed our position. 707 01:31:40,930 --> 01:31:44,710 Charlie West, Charlie West, another one new language. 708 01:31:47,530 --> 01:31:52,310 Christmas was approaching. The officer she explained to my father that she would be there 709 01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:53,370 a brief respite. 710 01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:58,730 He wanted us to be brought to safety and pointed to me and my sisters. 711 01:31:59,670 --> 01:32:03,810 We had to have protection that could be only the aerial one. 712 01:32:04,610 --> 01:32:08,910 He said to get ready to leave. As soon as had had the chance to 713 01:32:08,910 --> 01:32:12,310 protect ourselves with the Stork plane, we would be had to flee. 714 01:32:13,250 --> 01:32:16,290 The house had been one morning canonised. 715 01:32:16,620 --> 01:32:21,560 much of it destroyed. Canadians who they were playing poker blown up, 716 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,980 all destroyed, flown away in pieces. 717 01:32:24,220 --> 01:32:26,640 The danger was more than evident. 718 01:32:27,700 --> 01:32:32,300 One livid morning they told us that the only escape had arrived. 719 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:37,400 I started to go out to the back of the house and for the first time I saw a soldier 720 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:38,620 dead to climb over. 721 01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,520 My mother helped me, my little legs they were too small. 722 01:32:46,030 --> 01:32:51,270 Mom tried to close my eyes. I had time to see it from the rafters 723 01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:54,510 of the ceiling he thought about his head and arms down another soldier. 724 01:32:58,610 --> 01:33:00,790 Grandfather, my father, is out. 725 01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:07,250 Giorgio had placed some blankets on an old cart. 726 01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:12,190 Thus began our exodus. 727 01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:15,650 We would have had... Little food for the trip. 728 01:33:18,710 --> 01:33:23,570 I remember it quite clearly. The destroyed village, the church, the 729 01:33:23,570 --> 01:33:28,490 bell tower, potholes in the streets from which not had to go out, horses torn with 730 01:33:28,490 --> 01:33:34,250 guts out, drowned cows, swollen, putrid, nephossi and even human 731 01:33:34,250 --> 01:33:35,270 half-buried. 732 01:33:37,850 --> 01:33:42,550 The grandmother, in the throes of a nervous breakdown, he continually had to stop. 733 01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:48,380 The two peasant women were ferrying on one little black boat across a little river. 734 01:33:50,180 --> 01:33:54,220 The road was long, the stork it flew up and down. 735 01:33:54,660 --> 01:34:00,300 The three men took turns pushing the wagon, they were sweaty. My father had 736 01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:04,240 used my hands only for writing, now they had bleeding. 737 01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:11,140 It was given to us little ones too something to bring, souvenir of cards 738 01:34:11,140 --> 01:34:13,620 my dad's precious ones, what a struggle. 739 01:34:14,010 --> 01:34:17,150 But at any cost they had to be brought keep quiet. 740 01:34:18,730 --> 01:34:22,410 It was now dark. We faced it exhausted a climb. 741 01:34:22,650 --> 01:34:24,370 We had to cross a bridge. 742 01:34:24,970 --> 01:34:27,770 Very nearby there was a farm that the grandfather knew. 743 01:34:29,230 --> 01:34:32,990 The stork disappeared after a circle on the our heads. 744 01:34:33,250 --> 01:34:36,290 He greeted us. His task was finished. 745 01:35:04,170 --> 01:35:10,050 From Angela's diary, Milan, 15 October 1984. 746 01:35:12,310 --> 01:35:18,690 This evening, at approximately 11 pm, Yervant started with the robot 747 01:35:18,690 --> 01:35:22,310 the analytical chamber from the pole at the equator. 748 01:35:25,170 --> 01:35:29,830 It took us ages to see everyone the materials for the film. 749 01:35:31,820 --> 01:35:37,600 The last parts studied are those on fascism and its emblems. 750 01:36:57,620 --> 01:37:01,920 1983 In the summer we are in Romagna. 751 01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:11,760 On July 29th, suddenly, we decide to go to Predappio 752 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:17,440 to film images of the centenary of Mussolini's birth. 753 01:37:21,260 --> 01:37:24,980 Let's start with a little film, 16 mm, 754 01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:26,760 and an old room. 755 01:37:33,820 --> 01:37:40,440 There are two crews on site, one Japanese and a French woman, 756 01:37:40,440 --> 01:37:41,440 OAS. 757 01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:52,080 In a bar I ask for a glass of wine red. 758 01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,040 They answer. Here only black.